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OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:45 pm
by G-NIPR
Hello all,
I have received an email from one of our members who is not currently a Nipper owner but is seriously interested in becoming one.
He has asked for Nipper owners 'testimonials' aboout what they are like to live with and to fly.
I don't have time to write my comments at the moment as I have a flight to catch and would like to write some
considered thoughts instead of rushing it.
So please could I encourage owners past and present to say their piece on this thread?
I will add my comments in the coming days....


Cheers.

Paul
G-NIPR


quote from email:
' I have, over the past 3 weeks or so, scoured the internet for all the information I can find about the Nipper. Your Nipper forum is a great source, thanks for that. I've also exhaustively browsed the excellent Nipper Histories website and Raymond Cuypers RAR site. I've also spoken to Mick Greenaway, who's Nipper is nearing completion from a complete re-build. Mick has given me some valuable 'what to look fors' advice. What I am lacking is information about flying characteristics and practicailities of operating the type - pilot's testimonies if you will. Things like, how do you swing it yourself (there's a youtube clip of G-AVXD that shows this - is this typical? I saw your comment about chocks - that's what I was thinking!).

Any information or advice you could offer to help me build a pilots testimony of owning and operating the type would be a great help. '

Re: OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:52 pm
by Tipsy Flyer
Hi Future Nipper Owner,
The Nipper is a great small aircraft to own and fly!!!
They how every do require a little more effort in certain departments, eg they have no starter motor, one has to learn to swing the prop by hand. Getting into the cockpit is like mounting a "horse" but with a little practise, it becomes second nature. These small issues are due to the simple and light weight design, remember heavy airplanes do not fly well.
Due to the simple design, the part count is low, therefore less to break or go wrong and in the end cheap to operate. Your hangarage and insurance will possibly be the larger of your hourly operating cost.
It is advisable to have a basic mechanical knowlegde if you become an aircraft owner, they all need a little "attention" now and again Cool

How does it fly?? Weeeelll, if you have ever flown in a Super Cub, the Nipper is the single seater, aerobatic version!!
They are extremely maneuverable, sensitive to the touch on the control stick but not overly sensitive. Once you have flown a Nipper, the conventional aircraft(Piper/Cessna) feel lazy in the maneuvering dept, but that is how they are designed. I suppose it is like comparing a beetle to a Lotus sports car Shocked
I flew my Nipper the first time after having zero experience in flying anything remotely as light and small as a Nipper. Flew around for 20 mins or so and made a near perfect landing.

If you live in England, you will have all the best help around you, with the likes of the members on this forum, i unfortunately are 10000 miles south of all the good company.

By the way, please feel free to look at my Nipper rebuild (ZS-UAD) on the Aircraft section and please join in on the forum, the more, the merrier Laughing

Regards
Glen

Re: OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:18 pm
by Neil Spooner
Hi,

Put quite simply........simple!

Pros:
An easy plane to fly with no vices.
Easy to maintain, cheap to operate:VW engine burning 3 imp' gallons/hr.
Cheap to hanger due to size.
Relatively cheap to insure: £450-£690pa.
Great fun.
Short field ability.
If VW fitted with electronic ignition easy to start, even easier if fitted with a Jabiru engine!(electric starter)
Ideal aircraft to practice club level aero's. (BUT GET SOME DUAL INSTRUCTION ON SPINNING, AND FLAT SPIN CAUSAL CONDITIONS AND RECOVERY)
If fitted with inverted systems you can fly upside down..........in fact why fly anwhere in a straight line when you own a Nipper?

Cons:
Very unsocial on two counts: only 1 seat; noisy exhaust which will disturb sensitive neighbours.
Short range unless fitted with extra fuel tanks.
Only room for a toothbrush on the flight deck.

It is testimony that most Nipper owners keep theirs for many years.
Most Nipper owners walking away from their plane after flying it will have a silly grin!

I have probably left quite a number of things out, and will leave the forum to fill in the gaps........

I love flying mine (as you have probably guessed!) But had an interesting excursion into a new area of the flight envelope recently when I inadvertantly entered a flat spin.........the fact that I am writing this is testimony to the fact that they will recover from a flat spin, where many aircraft won't, so don't let this note put you off, what I strongly advocate is that any pilot that spins aircraft or even fools around doing aero's should get good solid training before you go try it on your own.

Good luck with finding a good one..........hens teeth and rocking horse droppings springs to mind!

Neil Very Happy Smile Laughing

Re: OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:34 pm
by JAB
I can endorse all that is said about the Nipper, it is a joy to fly and really easy for anyone with a sense of airmanship. All aircraft will bite fools if you let them, or operate outside their design profile.
The youtube insert re XD was made many years ago and has only just surfaced to my amazement,. Whilst chocks would have been ideal, there were none available! therefore the chap leaning into the cockpit is ensuring the throttle is covered and the locked on brakes do not undo.
Happy Nippering
JAB

Re: OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:58 am
by Neil Spooner
Great to fly......just look at this!

http://www.ina.fr/video/CPF04006723/att ... video.html

Neil

Re: OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:53 am
by Ross
I too am looking forward to flying my Nipper for the first time. I fitted a new Jab 80 hp engine.... then Covid struck. The Nipper is in Sydney Australia and I live in Tasmania Australia, so no travel allowed. I only need to do the weight and balance, then fly. I have seen this little rocket ship fly with a previous 115kg owner and I was amazed. I am a low hour pilot with about 80 hours in Jabirus, Foxbats, Skydarts and am building a scratch built seaplane/amphibian based on an Arion Lightning. I purchased the Nipper to give myself a break from building my other project ha... bit more work than I thought. Sorry I am rambling on too much, the purpose of this chat is to get advice on flying this little beastie and any engineering problems I should look out for.
I have posted a couple of pics one with our dog "Biscuit" in the cockpit see Gallery, rego 28-842 Kind regards and I look forward to your replies.

Re: OWNERS 'TESTIMONIALS' - WHAT ARE THEY LIKE TO OWN & FLY

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:16 pm
by Neil Spooner
Hi Ross,
Welcome aboard!
The Nipper is a really easy plane to fly, but difficult to aerobat accurately if you are competing. However, for fun aero's then you have the perfect low cost mount. Without inverted systems you will be limited to positive G manouevers, but nevertheless most things can be done with a dash of positive G.
It has no vices, stalls nicely and shouldn't drop a wing violently. Spin entry needs to be positive, and recovery very quick, as long as your CofG is not rearward.
You will find the a/c sensitive in pitch, so watch out for any PIO, just fly it with forefinger and thumb on the column. Once you are airborne do the usual familiarity flight including slow flight, stalls and simulated go-arounds. The landing performance is good, depending on which brakes you have (the originals are terrible).
Enjoy!
Neil